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Scripture… As We Live It #227

Posted by on Sep 23, 2012 in as we live it, scripture | 1 comment

Scripture… As We Live It #227

This is the 227th passage in “Scripture… As We Live It.”

I desire then that in every place the men should pray, lifting holy hands bowing their heads and closing their eyes without anger or quarreling agreeing with the pastoral prayer… (1 Timothy 2:8 re-mix)

(Please read the first post for an explanation of this series.)

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  1. 9-24-2012


    Simple, yet I am captivated by this post, as it reminds me of what I left. It was a very sad and frustrating time in my life when the pastor was the almighty shepherd and I was one among the helpless flock. He either dictated what we should pray about, which was some of the time, or offered us long-winded prayers on our behalf, which was most of the time.

    “Submission,” he called it, and pointed to the scriptures in an attitude that felt like, “I told you so.” I forgot I was supposed to remain helpless and in need of his spiritual maturity and guidance. How cruel it was when I suggested that I was perhaps not of his denomination.

    I wasn’t quite so helpless anymore. Yes I loved learning. But I felt I had outgrown my 1st grade chair. Indeed I was growing, as confirmed by others; I suppose he just didn’t like that idea. Instead, because I had started asking questions a little too deeply, he told me to read Titus 3:10-11 one day as I excited morning service. When I did, I immediately understood that much of Christ’s suffering was mental: people just didn’t get, or care to get, who He really was (and is). I also understood the secret code of this particular ‘church’: when the shepherd makes an offense, kick a sheep!

    As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned. (Titus 3:10-11)

    No, these words didn’t warm my heart either. Thanks for giving me, and others, an outlet of understanding for these issues. I needed to get that off my chest.

    (PS – I am now in a church that is intentionally using God’s gifts to equip the saints for the building of the body. (Eph 4) I’ve learned more about God’s grace, truth, plan, and purposes in four months than I did in almost four years.)