One of the things that’s changed in the way that I look at unity among the church concerns those convictions that you mentioned. I no longer ask myself or others which of my convictions are important enough to divide over – I think all of my convictions are important, and think I’m right about all of them, otherwise I would have different convictions.

Instead, I try to start with Scripture. What does Scripture say we should separate over? I’ve found this to be a much shorter list.

-Alan

I hope that I partially addressed what you’re talking about, but I think RUPERTUS MELDENIUS (often misquoted as being Augustine)had it right:

“IN ESSENTIALS UNITY, IN NON-ESSENTIALS LIBERTY, IN ALL THINGS CHARITY”
http://www9.georgetown.edu/faculty/jod/augustine/quote.html

Just my 2 cents:

When our debating degrades into useless posturing and scholastic gaming, when someone is really in need of charity, then doctrine has eaten its own tail.

If an issue is minor, then you may be straining a gnat to swallow a camel. I’m sure that there are many, many issues that overtake the more debatable and less impactful issues of doctrine.

If you have a bona fide issue with the body you are attending, then you should lovingly present the scriptural evidence to them, and see what they say – function be damned. If they attack and brow-beat you, then you may have issues with the church or denomination with which you are currently associated.

1. We all have convictions about the scriptures. If we don’t, we likely don’t care very much about what we’re reading.

2. These convictions are likely to clash with others’ convictions on the very same scriptures. Examples: Arminian vs. Reformed Soteriology, covenantalism vs dispensationalism, wine vs. grape juice.

3. Whether or not to continue to stay together in one fellowship when you are not of one mind on these “debatable” matters is an ongoing internal struggle.

4. Denominations are not necessarily an excuse to divide nearly as much as they are shorthand for the convictions that you have as a group – a label to help others determine whether or not your church is a good fit for their convictions. Example – Baptist vs. Presbyterian, Free Will vs. Reformed, etc.

5. Even non-denominational churches have a tendency to divide, pointing at denominations and saying, “we’re not like them – we refuse to divide over such silly things as doctrine!”. At that point, they’ve created a divide within itself – a sort of denomination of the anti-denominations.

I’m not so sure that denominations are an wrongful thing, in light of the convictions that we all have. We’re all fallen, and we have no idea who’s right and who’s not. There’s certainly nothing wrong with someone having a conviction to the point that they say that the current church can’t provide for their family’s needs. A paedobaptist won’t feel very comfortable at a baptist church, especially each time he has a child born.

I think that it’s easy to look at the utopian ideal and say that we should not divide over any matter whatsoever, because we are all one body. The reality, however, is that we are fallen – we’ll not know who is right or wrong until we see God face to face. The one place that I will agree with this frame of thinking, however, is where churches remain divided from even fellowshipping with each other – that is in itself heinous. Dis-fellowshipping based on a debatable matter is anti-scriptural.

We then just have to figure out what all the non-debatable matters are. Ugh.

I don’t know the answers to the questions that you’re asking or the problems and issues that you’re raising. Like you, I’m just beginning to attempt to understand what it means for us to be united in Christ. From what I’ve experienced and read about, denominations and systems of belief are usually used as excuses for dividing the body of Christ. But, I do believe they are just that – excuses. And, I don’t think that God looks at us that we that we look at ourselves when it comes to divisions for whatever reason.

-Alan

The question I am asking is what happens when these things effect our funtioning together? Here is where I struggle the most. I don’t want to be divisive but I have yet to experience a place where such doctrines are not effecting funtion. They may not be vocal, but they are present and actively working. For example Alan to be a member of certain churches or to even serve they would like to know about your giving, but if I say “my giving is in private” or I give outside of the congregation that causes huge problems. Or what about a group which have differing views on women and their function in the church or marriage/divorce, or membership, or Lord Day’s or even baptism (not just infant baptism but what about those who feel that certain people do not have the right to baptize) I am really wrestling through these things. Can I take a lost on these things? I don’t know.

There are those matters of essentials, where we should divide. We are supposed to guard sound doctrine. So we should never allow anyone to attempt to convince us that salvation is based on works, for example (let those who preach such be condemned, according to Paul). We should never allow anyone to attempt to preach modalism – a heresy against the nature of the trinity. Nor should we embrace the doctrines of Roman Catholic soteriology, Mormonism, or Jehovah’s Witnesses.

I personally have a strong conviction about predestination – not so that I would personally place it as a division between myself and others – but as I debate or discuss it with others, there are many that would divide from me in anger and fear when such discussions arise. A healthy body will allow such discussions – as “iron sharpens iron” so do we all as Christians sharpen our knowledge of God through constant healthy debate and discussion. The trick is to not relegate one’s self to dirision, anger, or fear in the midst of any of these situations. That is at the root of division in the body of Christ – the fear of a different opinion, possibly the inability of many to deal with a hard truth, and the inability to deliver that truth in love.

Yes, you can use this story, or anything else on my blog. Enjoy!

-Alan

Thanks,
God Bless

Yeah, I recognize myself in that parable.

Arthur,

Of course it’s their fault!

Lionel,

Keep posting. Thinking through the type of unity that we have in Christ but we fail to live in continually reminds me of my individual and our corporate need for Christ to reign in our lives.

-Alan